R3VLimited Forums

Go Back   R3VLimited Forums > E30 Technical Forums > Engine & Drivetrain > Alternative Tuning / W.A.R / Megasquirt / etc

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-09-2017, 10:29 PM   #16
Chris Spiegl
Advanced Member
 
Chris Spiegl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 155
Bump to get this thread going again!

Here is an archived link to e30tech's thread:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141113...ad.php?t=33028
__________________
1987 325is 2.8L Stroker Turbo "Little Pickle aka The Green Turbo Sled"
Chris Spiegl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 07:56 AM   #17
tschultz
Grease Monkey
 
tschultz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: CO
Posts: 320
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Spiegl View Post
Bump to get this thread going again!

Here is an archived link to e30tech's thread:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141113...ad.php?t=33028
Only page 1 or am I missing something?
__________________
http://www.Drive4Corners.com
tschultz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 03:42 PM   #18
frostlane
Noobie
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Posts: 20
Would love to see this thread grow like it did on E30tech. I just recently ordered a whodwho PNP ecu and am excited to learn how to use it. Was hoping I could find some info in the old archived e30tech thread but like tschultz mentioned above I can only see two pages of the thread.
frostlane is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 03:48 PM   #19
nomansland92
E30 Mastermind
 
nomansland92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pittsburgh P.A.
Posts: 1,616
Anyone interested in learning about tuning i highly suggest checking out hpacedamy.com. some extremely good information there, I've been taking there classes probably about a year and it's been incredibly helpful.
__________________
Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

IX being restored here

Ix turbo build here
nomansland92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2017, 09:11 PM   #20
Chris Spiegl
Advanced Member
 
Chris Spiegl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 155
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomansland92 View Post
Anyone interested in learning about tuning i highly suggest checking out hpacedamy.com. some extremely good information there, I've been taking there classes probably about a year and it's been incredibly helpful.
That website isn't loading for me. Is it hpacademy.com ? Thanks for the link.

I just ordered a PNP from SSSquid and can't wait to get my hands on it. I have no previous experience with tuning at all, but squidmaster has been very helpful. I just bought TunerStudio MS and MegaLogViewer MS. I got a base map from DIYAutoTune for a turbo e30 and am using that as my base tune.
__________________
1987 325is 2.8L Stroker Turbo "Little Pickle aka The Green Turbo Sled"
Chris Spiegl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2017, 12:20 AM   #21
nomansland92
E30 Mastermind
 
nomansland92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pittsburgh P.A.
Posts: 1,616
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Spiegl View Post
That website isn't loading for me. Is it hpacademy.com ? Thanks for the link.

I just ordered a PNP from SSSquid and can't wait to get my hands on it. I have no previous experience with tuning at all, but squidmaster has been very helpful. I just bought TunerStudio MS and MegaLogViewer MS. I got a base map from DIYAutoTune for a turbo e30 and am using that as my base tune.
Try searching high performance Academy on Google it should come right up. They have actual courses on there which can be a little bit of money but still worth It, or you can just become a member for like 20 bucks a month and then you get a watch there weekly videos and can talk to anyone on there furom and get actual answers from professional tuners. There live videos about a specific topic and usually about an hour long and you can go back and watch anyone of them at any time. They don't ever get into megasquirt itself but once you learn the software tuning is tuning no matter the ecu
__________________
Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

IX being restored here

Ix turbo build here
nomansland92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2017, 10:01 PM   #22
Chris Spiegl
Advanced Member
 
Chris Spiegl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 155
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomansland92 View Post
Try searching high performance Academy on Google it should come right up. They have actual courses on there which can be a little bit of money but still worth It, or you can just become a member for like 20 bucks a month and then you get a watch there weekly videos and can talk to anyone on there furom and get actual answers from professional tuners. There live videos about a specific topic and usually about an hour long and you can go back and watch anyone of them at any time. They don't ever get into megasquirt itself but once you learn the software tuning is tuning no matter the ecu
Thanks! I checked it out and am going to watch the "Free Videos" they offer when I have some time.
__________________
1987 325is 2.8L Stroker Turbo "Little Pickle aka The Green Turbo Sled"
Chris Spiegl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2017, 02:37 PM   #23
dugly52
Grease Monkey
 
dugly52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 372
/\ Same. Thanks for the info. Hopefully this takes off. All I can find is page 1 of the E30tech thread :/
__________________

Project: 87' 325iS... 325iS
88 Alpine 325i
1/2 88 325iX
dugly52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2017, 03:25 PM   #24
2002tiiguy
E30 Addict
 
2002tiiguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Pittsburgh!
Posts: 467
stock ix motor 885 head. ms2 n/a for now (stay tuned for twinscroll)

im pretty happy with how it runs. steve, or nomansland91 is helping me put together a quick spooling relatively low boost setup. power goal tentatively 250 whp.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg VE.jpg (119.0 KB, 332 views)
File Type: jpg IGN.jpg (121.4 KB, 340 views)
2002tiiguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2017, 01:37 PM   #25
bruner
E30 Addict
 
bruner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Bellingham, WA
Posts: 402
Bumpski, let's get some more info on this thread. Anybody have m10 (turbo or NA) tables that I could use as a base?
__________________

90 M3 brilliantrot/schwarz
90 M5 brilliantrot/schwarz
87 325 alpinweiss/houndstooth (building)
90 735i/5 islandgrün-metallic/schwarz (daily)
87 Foxbody Notch 5.0 5spd SSP (other daily)
71 F-250 4x4 390 4spd
bruner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2017, 10:45 AM   #26
Kershaw
R3V OG
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: MD
Posts: 11,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2002tiiguy View Post
stock ix motor 885 head. ms2 n/a for now (stay tuned for twinscroll)

im pretty happy with how it runs. steve, or nomansland91 is helping me put together a quick spooling relatively low boost setup. power goal tentatively 250 whp.
I ran around with these numbers this morning (although I have greentop injectors) and I had to scale back every cell 15 points on the fuel table to run around at 12.9-13.0 at WOT. Just running your numbers as is gave me 10 at wot and cruise. Do you have an AFR gauge? What do you see?

Does anyone know how much of a difference going from 14.5lb to 17lb injectors make?
__________________
AWD > RWD
Kershaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2017, 11:43 AM   #27
varg
R3VLimited
 
varg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Palm Beach County, FL
Posts: 2,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kershaw View Post
I ran around with these numbers this morning (although I have greentop injectors) and I had to scale back every cell 15 points on the fuel table to run around at 12.9-13.0 at WOT. Just running your numbers as is gave me 10 at wot and cruise. Do you have an AFR gauge? What do you see?

Does anyone know how much of a difference going from 14.5lb to 17lb injectors make?
Well... If I'm not making any gross logical errors, there's a 17% increase in fuel flow, which would change the measured AFR by 17% under ideal circumstances, and on top of that, there are differences in other parts of the tune which could change how large this effect is based your particular fuel delivery equation variables such as REQ_fuel error, injector dead time error, MAT/Baro correction error, number of pulses per cycle...

All good reasons to be careful when using other people's tables, even if your engines are exactly the same you never know how your fueling equation differs due to errors made by you or the other guy during tuning. There are less variables with timing but it's equally dangerous because if guy A has a larger trigger offset angle than guy B and guy B uses guy A's ignition table, the result could be pretty bad for the engine.
__________________
@turbovarg
'91 318is, M20B25, T3/T04E 60 trim (15psi), megasquirt, coilovers, Z3 rack, cold AC
[b u i l d]
[Car of the month: April 2018]

Always outnumbered, never outgunned.

Last edited by varg; 04-22-2017 at 11:49 AM.
varg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2017, 09:34 PM   #28
2002tiiguy
E30 Addict
 
2002tiiguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Pittsburgh!
Posts: 467
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kershaw View Post
I ran around with these numbers this morning (although I have greentop injectors) and I had to scale back every cell 15 points on the fuel table to run around at 12.9-13.0 at WOT. Just running your numbers as is gave me 10 at wot and cruise. Do you have an AFR gauge? What do you see?

Does anyone know how much of a difference going from 14.5lb to 17lb injectors make?
that was with m50 injectors installed, i had it set for 17 pounders cause thats what i thought i had, and i was running 13.2:1 WOT, now running green giants. ill post the new ve table soon
2002tiiguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2017, 03:50 PM   #29
fergie
Noobie
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 21
m20b25
ARP head studs
Holset H1C with 0.63AR turbine housing
38mm external gate recirculated w/ EBC at 12-13psi
3" turbo back to single magnaflow muffler
Wasted spark MSD Coils
36# injectors
94 octane no ethanol
afr under boost is 11.6-12.0

ignition table was setup on a mustang dyno and is considered conservative

fergie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2017, 04:13 PM   #30
ForcedFirebird
R3V OG
 
ForcedFirebird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: WOT-Tech, Florida
Posts: 6,441
Not that it makes a bit of difference, but rather than posting the VE tables, shouldn't we be looking at target AFR's? I have found that unless a drive train moved from one car to another the VE always needs a fair bit of tweaking.

Hopefully people aren't copy/pasting VE numbers into their ECU's. On the other hand, I have found that similar combinations require similar spark tables - albeit a "2.7i" with flat pistons/885 is no where near the same as a true seta 2.7. The flat pistons want more advance (showing less efficiency).
__________________
john@m20guru.com
Links:
Transaction feedback: Here, here and here. Thanks
ForcedFirebird is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2004 - 2020 R3VLimited LLC